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How to Win at Mental Health

7/25/2021

A Conversation About How to Conquer Depression with a Full-on Effort

Dealing with depression and anxiety? Who is winning, you or them? What if you had a playbook full of healing, coping, and life-giving strategies at the ready? Would you feel more supported, more hopeful?

Guest Bio:
Zack S. Rutledge is an ACE Certified Personal Trainer, an ACE Certified Fitness Nutrition Specialist, and a Certified Brain Health Trainer through the Functional Aging Institute. He has a black belt in karate, has practiced yoga for almost a decade, and has played in punk bands for years. He holds an MA from American University in Washington, D.C. and is currently pursuing a Clinical Psychology degree.

Zack is the author of The Official Depression Relief Playbook: Real-Life Strategies From a Guy Who Has Lived It.
He shares with us how depression and anxiety, triggered by grief, sent him spiraling downward as a young adult and how he created a playbook full of winning strategies to take on his mental health challenges from every angle.

Stay tuned to find out how you can defeat your demons with Zack’s D-Day approach. Enjoy this uplifting, laughter-filled conversation and pick up a new perspective that might just change everything for the better.

We do talk a little about the tough stuff of depression, - nothing graphic, but take care of yourself. If you feel things come up for you, reach out and get help, whether that’s a friend, a professional counsellor, or a help line, like National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
800-273-8255.

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Music Credits:
A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

SHOW NOTES:
Key Takeaways:

How to adapt to Covid and other life changes by listening to your gut
How to tell the difference between grief and depression
How to use the D-day approach to conquer depression

Do a Science:

Practice Box Breathing

Zack’s Content

The Official Depression Relief Playbook

Other relevant Episodes:

Episode 85 How to be a Victor, not a Victim with Fatima Oliver.
Episode 76 How to be 88% Happy with Dr. Marissa Pei

Take a Deeper Dive on the Topic:

Myers Briggs Test
- About the Assessment
- Take the official version (paid)
- Take a free version - 16 Personalities
Atul Gawande’s The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right

How to Be Powerfully Peaceful

7/19/2021

Developing Conscious Skills, Mindfulness, and Success with Neil Seligman

Wouldn’t it be ideal if we could take our full, relaxed, connected and authentic selves everywhere, including to work? Wouldn’t it be better if leaders of all kinds could lead from a place of mindfulness, self-awareness, and peaceful power? If Consciousness and Corporateness coexisted wouldn’t they create something new and revolutionary?

Guest Bio:
Our guest today is Neil Seligman. He was a trial lawyer - or Barrister - in England for 8 years, but his interest in Consciousness and meditation pre-dated his law career. It wasn’t until he ditched the day job and spent several years exploring his inner and outer worlds that he saw how to connect mindfulness practice with corporate life and productivity.

Now Neil trains and coaches professionals in a wide variety of “conscious skills,” and speaks at prestigious corporate events and seminars around the world, from Europe to America, Asia, and Australia. Having immersed himself in mindfulness since his teens, Neil combines his authentic passion for the practice with unrivalled professional expertise in his pioneering business, Conscious Corporate Consultancies. His insight and compelling enthusiasm leave his audiences inspired, energized and armed with practical ways to reach their highest potential.

We are so pleased to bring you our conversation with the calm, grounded, and utterly delightful Neil Seligman. If you don’t relate to the corporate angle, don’t worry - there is a ton in our talk that relates to personal growth and using mindfulness to make pretty much everything more joyful and functional.

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Music Credits: A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

Gus supervising this week's episode upload.

SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways:

We can open and close
Mindfullness can lead to increased stress resilience/decreased stress reactivity

Do a Science:

Daily FHB Meditation
- Feet on the Floor
- Hands on the Heart
- Body on Breathing

More About Neil:

Public Website
The Conscious Professional Website
Zen in Ten program
Neil’s Books
- 100 Mindfulness Meditations: The Ultimate Collection of Inspiring Daily Practices
- Conscious Leadership. Reveal your potential. Inspire excellence
Neil’s Art
- Soul Portrait Photography

Neil’s Social Media Resources

Group
Facebook The Conscious Professional
Twitter Neil Seliman
LinkedIn Neil Seligman
YouTube ConsciousProTV

Other relevant Episodes:

Episode 55, How Not to Know with Pete Pierson - using a mindfulness practice to inform social action and advocacy
Episode 78 How to Build Soulful Power - Breathing, laughing and learning with Christian de la Huerta

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

Dance and Movement
- Gabrielle Roth’s Five Rhythms Movement Practice
- Biography of Anna Helprin
Other Topics
- Matthew Fox
- Byron Katie Loving What Is Video

How to Start a Fire:

7/12/2021

Getting Our Sex Life Off the Back Burner with Susan Bratton

"Let's talk about sex, baby
Let's talk about you and me"

If you’re our generation, you probably danced to Salt ‘n’ Pepa at a teen club or when you sneaked into a bar with a fake ID. It was all super-hot back then, but how about now? Have you lost your mojo? Is sex, intimacy, and connection on the back burner or worse, a distant memory? Well, it doesn’t have to be. In fact, today’s guest makes shared pleasure, a richer relationship, and a fuller life seem not just possible, but totally worth the effort.

We’re your hosts Charles Matheus and Kelly Roberge. We are insatiably interested in the intersection of personal growth, healthy relationships, and vibrant communities.

Welcome to the HERE.together Podcast where we go deeper than the typical podcast on topics that really matter. We ask questions no one else asks, we share true stories about ourselves that few other hosts tell, and we walk into the material we cover with vulnerability and honesty.

Guest Bio:
Our guest this episode is Susan Bratton, intimacy expert to millions. She teaches people how to achieve ageless passion and unlock the secrets to life-long vitality. She is the best-selling author and publisher of 34 books and programs including “Sexual Soulmates'' and “Relationship Magic.”

She is co-founder and CEO of two corporations: Personal Life Media, Inc., a publisher of heart-connected lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills and The20, LLC., a manufacturer of organic and botanical supplements that enhance sexual vitality.

A best-selling author and publisher of 34 books and programs including Sexual Soulmates, Relationship Magic, Revive Her Drive, Ravish Him, Steamy Sex Ed™, The Passion Patch, Hormone Balancing, and Hot To Trot.

Susan has been featured in the New York Times and on CNBC and the TODAY show as well as frequent appearances on ABC, CBS, The CW, Fox and NBC.

Susan’s core expertise lies in the intersection between passionate lovemaking techniques and bedroom communication skills. She has studied extensively what makes intimacy truly passionate, surrendered, and connected, and she boils those skills down to simple practices anyone can use to achieve profoundly pleasurable results.

What's Different About This Episode:
We normally get to know our guests on a pretty deep level, but this week, Susan Bratton really got to know us. We open up about our own sexual histories and our current sex-life (or lack thereof). We show up as fully transparent and vulnerable, as always, as Susan helps us work through our fears, hesitations, and desires so that we can re-invest our relationship with closeness, caring, and communion.
So keep listening for an honest, revealing, healing conversation about how to make sex great at any age.

SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways:

Learn the Four Kinds of Touch
Why Sex is Worth the Trouble
How Great Sex and Meaningful Intimacy is a Learned Skill
Good Sex Takes Practice

Do a Science:

Practice the Sexual Soulmate Embrace with your partner at least once this week.
AND/OR download and read the Sexual Soulmate Pact with your partner

Episode References:

Susan’s Websites
- Professional Portal
- Be a Better Lover Resources and Programs
Susan’s Social Media
Susan’s Online Resources

Other relevant Episodes:

Episode 74 How to Make Your Relationship Happy with relationship journalist Claire Vande Polder
Episode 73 How to Make Your Relationship Exceptional with Jachym Jerie and Natasha Koo
Episode 46 How To Be Emotional with Kelly and Charles

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

Brad Blanton Radical Honesty

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How to be a Victor, not a Victim

7/5/2021

How do you keep going through the darkest nights of the soul? How do you take the worst things that happened to you and turn them into fuel for good? How do you shift from victim to victor?

Guest Bio:
Fatima Oliver is devoted to helping others become their best selves. She is a survivor of the kinds of trauma, abuse, and personal tragedy that would break most people, but she found a way to keep going, heal, and thrive. Now she wants to reach back and help others find their way out.
Fatima has an MBA and the financial knowledge and skills to go with it. She’s written a memoir sharing her story titled, "The Prescription is in the Dirt." If that’s not enough interesting bio to intrigue you, she also toured as a backup singer with the Righteous Brothers for 4 years.

Listen to the whole episode for a deeply meaningful conversation about surviving and thriving, finding our voices, and paying it forward with the multi-talented badass boss, Fatima Oliver.

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Music Credits: A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

SHOW NOTES:
Fatima’s Key Takeaways for the Soul Healing Journey:

Have a safe place to fall - an engaged support group who wants the best for you
Avoid the victim mindset
- Make a commitment to reach out for help and move on
It’s OK to not be OK - it’s not OK to stay that way
Turn your pain into purpose

Do a Science:

Imagine you most wonderful day.
What are three things that you would do on that wonderful day.
Incorporate at least two of those things per day.

Episode References:

Connect with Fatima
- Website
- LinkedIn
- Instagram
- Facebook
The Prescription is in the Dirt

Other relevant Episodes:

Episode 42 How To Turn Setback Into Success with Melanie Banayat.
Episode 76 How to be 88% Happy with Dr. Marissa Pei.

How to Be an Awesome Dad

6/28/2021

A Conversation about Engaged Fatherhood and Social Change

This week on the HERE.together Podcast - in belated recognition of Father’s Day - we are releasing, in full, another of the episodes of the Remaking Manhood Podcast which I co-host and co-produce with Mark Greene. In this episode, we interview Kevin Shafer, an associate professor of Sociology at Brigham Young University, who is conducting ongoing research around the surprising impact of engaged fathers and how that engagement later shows up in the adult lives of their sons. Hint: It's really good news for gender equity.

In this episode, Kevin explains his research and connects it to both his own fathering and fatherhood. Despite how complex the parent child relationship is, Kevin is able to provide some really basic and actionable tips for how to raise kids who can grow up authentically, and resist the boxes that domination culture wants to shove them into.
At the end of this episode, Mark and I tell some stories about our own connections to our dad’s and what kind of “protective factors” they gave us.
I hope you get a lot out of this conversation. We’d love to hear from you about your understanding of engaged fatherhood. Who helped you become who you are? What hopes do you have for fathers and children today? What can we do as a culture and a nation to support engaged parenting?

Guest Bio:
Kevin studies father involvement and mental health in Canada and the United States.
He is an associate professor in the Department of Sociology at Brigham Young University and an adjunct associate professor in the Department of Health, Aging, & Society at McMaster University.
His work focuses on the facilitators of and barriers to father involvement with children–with a strong emphasis on the effects of paternal mental health and masculine norm adherence. He is currently working on a book about similarities and differences between Canadian and US fathers (forthcoming at University of Toronto Press).
Currently, his research is being integrated into federally-funded intervention programs addressing fathering among low-income and minority fathers in the Western United States. He is the past chair of the Men in Families Focus Group for the National Council on Family Relations, currently serving as an Associate Editor for the journal Social Work Research, and he is the co-coordinator of the Sociology of Families, Work, & Care cluster in the Canadian Sociological Association.
At BYU, he serves as a research mentor to over 40 students, producing more than 35 student authored presentations, and more than 30 presentations at national conferences. He currently teaches introductory sociology courses and advanced courses on family and research.
On a personal level, Kevin lives with his wife and four children in Utah County. He is an avid sports fan.

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SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways:

Engaged Fathers make a difference in how able their boys are to avoid being trapped in the Manbox.
Dads whose masculinity is less rigid or extreme raise kids who are more open to equity and social justice.
Being an engaged father is as simple as being present for a child.
Engaged fathering can be performed by moms, stepdads, mentors, etc.

Background References:

More about Kevin Shafer
- Kevin’s Personal Website
- Kevin’s Research

Recommended Father’s Groups and Resources

City Dads Group
The Urban Dads on Facebook
National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse
Fatherhood Research and Practice Network

More about Mark Greene’s Work

www.remakingmanhood.com
Good Men Project
Follow on Twitter @remakingmanhood

More about Charles’s Work

www.charlesmatheus.com
Redefining Strength Facebook Group
YouTube Channel (Includes 2 TEDx talks)

Other relevant HERE.together Episodes:

Re-defining Strength for the Challenges Ahead
The Personal Impact of Men's Work

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

Resources for Men’s Work

Music Credits: Theme music composed by Gus Greene. Click here for links to his music on most streaming services.

How to Shatter Glass

6/20/2021

An Energizing Conversation with Women's Executive Coach Kate Hutson

What if you had the confidence and boldness to ask for what you want, go for the promotion, choose to change lanes, or live your way into your biggest goals?

Our guest today coaches women in conquering their fear, creating productive habits, and building the roadmaps that take them in the direction they want to go. She reminds us that we will never feel ready and that taking action will lead to confidence, rather than the other way around.

Guest Bio:
Kate Hutson is an Executive Life Coach, Public Speaker, and the owner of Shattered Glass Coaching. After years of passionate work as a business leader, teacher, coach, and mentor, Kate turned her passion for mentoring others into practical knowledge for the real world-- skills that women can use in their everyday lives to help them gain confidence, develop leadership skills, and achieve their wildest dreams. After becoming a Certified Life Coach in 2020, Kate now coaches executive women to become courageous leaders in their workplaces and their personal lives.

Kate’s market niche may be female executives, this episode has some wisdom and energy for everyone! I dare any of you H.tties to listen and NOT get inspired and empowered. I dare you. !

Listen in for a real conversation about what women face in the workplace and how they can walk confidently toward their goals. Get your high fives and fist pumps ready - you’re going to need them.

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Music Credits:
A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

SHOW NOTES:
Key Takeaways: Bolster your confidence by

You can gain confidence by taking action!
Focus on the (small) wins
Use “I” language when you accomplish something (e.g. “I organized that event. I led that program.”)

Do a Science:

The Rejection Challenge - get rejected at least once every day. Ask for something that you don’t think you’ll get. Do things you wouldn’t normally do.
Post your rejections on Instagram and tag us at #heretogetherpodcast

My vision is women supporting women. One of my mantras is, I’m going to support you, you’re going to support the other women and men around you. We’re going to be a community that helps each other, rather than clawing our way to the top.

Episode References:

Check out Kate’s Website
Book a get acquainted call with Kate
Follow Kate on social media

Other relevant Episodes:

Episode 42 How to Turn Setbacks into Success with serial entrepreneur Melanie Banayat
Episode 60, How to Get Coached with Ken Kilday and Tom Check.
Episode 70, How to Live Your Purpose with Rick Heyland.

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

Go for No Website
Go for No Book

How to Talk Feminism with Men

6/14/2021

A Conversation in which Charles outs himself

How many Feminist men do you know? You know what they say in cosmology - there’s either zero, one, or infinity of something! And given that there's one feminist man on our podcast team, what does that mean?

Our guest today had a hard time finding a Feminist man in her dating life, so long story short, she created a website where men identifying as Feminists can share, connect, and get inspired to take action. So far she’s identified at least 33 Feminist men, which guarantees there are more to discover.

Guest Bio:
Maria Orihuela is a multi-national, multi-lingual dynamo who started out in communications and advertising, but shifted gears when she realized she wanted more meaning and purpose in her work life. She lives in London and now works as a Corporate Trainer, Coach and Facilitator.
Maria’s passion for diversity and inclusion and her desire to destigmatize the word “feminist” led her to create a project called Men Talk Feminism. She realized that change might happen more effectively if men talk with other men about the perils of patriarchy and the value of dismantling a system that hurts everyone. Men can go to the website, www.mentalkfeminism.com and answer three questions about their experience of and understanding of the importance of being a feminist.

Maria also talks about how #Metoo happened at the perfect moment in her own healing journey and about how she’s motivated to tackle patriarchy for her own personal benefit and that of the generations that follow. Stay tuned for a joyful, lively conversation about the value of creating space for everyone to flourish together.

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Music Credits: A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

SHOW NOTES:
Do a Science:

Go to www.mentalkfeminism.com
Read at least three entries
For men -
- Write your own entry
- When you receive notice that it’s approved and posted: Re-post and Re-tweet
- Use the hashtags #mentalkfeminism, #beyondmenandmasculinity, #heretogetherpodcast
- Extra credit, ask two of your buddies to read some of the entries because you’re curious what they think. Start a discussion.
For women -
- Ask your closest male friend or partner to read a few entries, too.
- Ask him what he thinks

Click the image below for information about how to participate in 100 Challenge and win prize

Episode References:

Other Relevant Episodes:

Episode 75 How to Break Out of the Man Box
Episode 80 The Personal Impact of Men’s Work
Remaking Manhood Podcast

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

A list of 27 Famous FeMANists
Is Dolly Parton a Feminist?
- https://www.lofficielusa.com/pop-culture/is-dolly-parton-a-feminist
- Dolly Parton's America Podcast

How to Take it to the Next Level

6/6/2021

Music & Community Enrichment with Candace Devine & Drew Hall

If you could time-travel, what band would you go back and befriend right before they made it BIG??

Well, we have yet to crack time-travel, but the good news is we all get to be up-close friendly-fans of our guests today and after the rest of the world hears their new single, we’ll be able to say we knew them when.

Guest Bio:
If you’ve been a HERE.together listener for a while, you already know Candace Devine and Drew Hall, local music powerhouses and all-around good eggs. They have ridiculous musical credentials individually, and together they, along with Johan Glidden, have formed a Supergroup called Ponderosa Grove, that is not only blending amazing local talent into a band that is destined for greatness, but they are building an equally powerful arts culture here in Prescott that embraces excellence, collaboration, and community.

For those of you who don’t already know, Candace has been a professional singer and songwriter since her early 20s, performing with or opening for acts like Christina Aguilera, Ringo Starr, Styx, the Four Tops and many others. She is a prolific songwriter and collaborator and received a Grammy nomination for her work with jazz saxophonist, Mindi Abair. Candace also hosts the Creative Convergence Podcast that features conversations with world-class artists, musicians, and other creatives.

Drew Hall is a former banker who defied the 9-5 life at his earliest opportunity, going on to be in every kind of band, teach guitar to young and old musicians alike, and to curate exceptional music shows here in Prescott. In pre-Covid times, Drew could be spotted playing with the Cheektones, Summa Totius, THiS Trio with Slim Gamble of Lady Antebellum fame, et cetera!

Stay tuned for a laughter-filled AND deeply insightful conversation about the creative process, the art of leadership, and the positive role of music in bridging differences. You’ll be treated to not one, but 2 songs from their forthcoming album and Charles treats us to a terrible metaphor about how collaboration is like spiders and centipedes.

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Music Credits:
Drew & Candace songs

Under the episode intro - Don’t Worry Child (Roslyn)
"Waterline"
"You Got Me"
Under the episode mid-rolls and the outro - While My Guitar Gently Weeps George Harrison Cover by Candace Devine, Dylan Ludwig and Drew Hall

SHOW NOTES:
Key Takeaways:

Dare to be stupid, dare to be wrong, all ideas matter
Collaboration builds community

Do a Science:

Play an instrument, sing, or dance in front of at least one other person.
Post a video or audio in the Community Lab on Facebook or on Instagram with the #heretogetherpodcast tag.

OR

Donate to a local youth arts organization An example: Prescott Schools Foundation

When you deliver ideas into a communal pot, energy grows, relationships grow, community grows…

pisode References:

Ponderosa Grove
- Web Page
- ”Waterline” Official Video (which we’re IN!)
- Event Live stream
  - Ponderosa Grove Event Page
More Candace’s Devine
- Candace’s YouTube Channel
- Creative Convergence Podcast
More Ponderosa Grove Members and Contributors

Other Episodes with Drew and Candace:

Episode 53, Our first anniversary party!!
Episode 29 Don’t Worry Child

HERE.Together “Wish we knew them before they were big” band list.

The Decembrists
OK Go
Tim Minchin

The Personal Impact of Men's Work

5/31/2021

A Remaking Manhood Episode with Boysen Hodgson

For generations, our culture has taught us a narrow and limiting set of rules for how to be a man. The end result? Epidemic levels of isolation for boys and men and embedded repression and violence for the vast majority of women and children. As a boy and young man, I learned that same set of rules and I adopted that stoic, suppressed, and sometimes emotionally violent version of manhood. It took me years to find a way back to the real authentic version of myself that is open, loving, curious, vulnerable, bold, and creative.
What if there were ways… paths… programs… groups… a movement, that helped men break out of the Man Box, find their authentic selves, and become happier, less destructive, and more constructive? This episode is about just those paths, those groups and that movement.

This week on the HERE.together Podcast we are releasing, in full, another of the early episodes of the Remaking Manhood Podcast which I co-host and co-produce with Mark Greene. In this episode, we interview Boysen Hodgson, the Communications Director for the ManKind Project USA. For the last 35 years, ManKind Project has been providing intensive weekend retreats and long-term peer support groups for men all over the world.

In this conversation, Boysen quickly sets the bar for vulnerability, insight, and truth. Mark and I also end up sharing our deep backstories about how we created our old, mistaken assumptions about ourselves and the world. Mark explains how those old bad stories cause many men to either self-sabotage or lash out.

All three of us men share our experience with the work it took us to become a man of connection, accountability and purpose. For all of us, men's work is an ongoing process and one that constantly reveals new ways of seeing and being. Boysen's own knowledge of men's work, both as a leader and as a man is a powerful resource for all the men in our community. I end up surprised by a couple of new ideas that come from the conversation and by some insight that comes bubbling up out of me at Boyson’s invitation.

I’m really pleased, and a little nervous to share this episode with you, but here we go.

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How to successfully become a traitor to all those things you took on as oaths when you were a little boy -- there's the path to men's work.

Resources for Men’s Work

Mankind Project
Humen: The Men’s Mental Health Movement
Rising Man
Evryman
Sacred Sons
Michael Meade - Mosiac Voices
More Remaking Manhood: The Healthy Masculinity Podcast

Background References:

More about Boysen Hodson & Mankind Project
- Boyson’s Personal Website
- The New Macho – a Credo for the Mature Masculine
- Mankind Project

More about Mark Greene’s work & writing
- www.remakingmanhood.com
- Good Men Project
- Follow on Twitter @remakingmanhood

More about Charles’s work
- www.charlesmatheus.com
- Redefining Strength Facebook Group
- YouTube Channel (Includes 2 TEDx talks)

Other relevant HERE.together Episodes:

Re-defining Strength for the Challenges Ahead

Dive Deeper on the Topic:

Remaking Manhood Book
Little #Metoo Book for Men
The Mask You Live In Documentary
The Hero with a Thousand Faces - Joseph Campbell
King, Warrior, Magician, Lover: Rediscovering the Archetypes of the Mature Masculine - Robert Moore & Doug Gillette

Music Credits: Theme music composed by Gus Greene. Click here for links to his music on most streaming services.

How to Be the Solution

5/24/2021

Asking Questions and Taking Responsibility with Angel Ribo

Who cares about big business when you’re just trying to get your small business off the ground? What do CEOs have to do with running a successful family?
If you just re-watched Wall Street or read the news and need to feel hopeful about business and the world, this is the episode for you.

Welcome to Part IV of our Spiritual Warrior series.

Guest Bio:
Angel Ribo is a contender for the most energized, positive guest award. We are so excited to introduce you to this glowing, powerful man who has been coach and confidante to hundreds of corporate officers around the world, [we’re talking 15 hundred CEOs in 33 countries] who brings heart and spirit into the business world, who focuses on the quality of relationships at all levels, in order to help his clients improve not just their bottom line, but their impact.
And HIS impact doesn’t stop there. Angel is bringing his business acumen to the service of underprivileged kids in Latin America, teaching and mentoring them to become entrepreneurs using the resources they have on hand. So far he’s worked with over a thousand young people and you’ll hear that compelling, fascinating story in part II of this episode. Stay all the way until the end, as well, though, to get this weeks simple but really deeply challenging personal science assignment.

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Music Credits:
A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill

SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways:

Take imperfect action now
Bring the whole self to leadership

“With everything that has happened, the leaders who are coming up and the leaders who are emerging, are going to be much more mindful about the human side of their employees.”

Do a Science:

When making a tough decision or facing an intractable problem, ask yourself:
- “Why not?”
- “How can I be the solution?” OR “If not me, then who?”

More About our Guest:

Angel’s Websites
- The CEO Confidant - Divine Human Ventures
- Wisdom for Kids
Angel’s Social Media Feeds
- LinkedIn
- Twitter
- Facebook
- YouTube
- Instagram

The Spiritual Warrior Series

Ep 76 How to Be 88% Happy with Dr. Marissa Pei
Ep 77 How to Live for Social Justice with the Rev. Dr. Marcia Ledford, esq.
Ep 78 How to Build Soulful Power with Christian de la Huerta

Spiritual Warrior Resources:

Kelly’s Recommendations
- Untamed - Glennon Doyle
- Welcoming the Unwelcome – Pema Chodron
- The Book of Joy – Dalai Lama & Desmond Tutu
- Pronoia: The Antidote For Paranoia - Rob Brezsny
Charles’s recommendations
- Non-fiction Books
  - Nature and the Human Soul - Bill Plotkin
  - King, Warrior, Magician, Lover - Robert Moore, Doug Gillette
  - Refuge - Terry Tempest Williams
  - Dare to Lead - Brene Brown
- Fiction Books
  - Animal Dreams - Barbara Kingsolver
  - The Fifth Sacred Thing - Starhawk
  - Ishmael - Daniel Quinn

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We are a pair of intensely curious, slightly scattered, social commentators investigating connection, communication and community. We bring their years of circuitous journeying as we interview each other and the people we find fascinating.

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