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How to Walk into Adulthood

3/22/2021

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Parenting, Adventure & Authenticity 
Imagine walking more than 800 miles, across dry, spiny deserts, up over a dozen different snowy mountain summits, all the way from Mexico to Utah. Imagine carrying everything you need on your back, eating dehydrated food, and sucking water from cattle tanks. Imagine living under the big skies and big weather on the Arizona Trail for over two months.
Now imagine doing all of that while trying to keep up with your 7th grade science and reading assignments. 

That’s right, our intrepid guest this episode is 13-year-old Georgia Clews who is halfway through her long trail hike adventure with her mom, Charlotte Clews. If Georgia (known by her trail name, Marmot), gets all the way to the Utah border under her own steam, she will likely be the youngest person to hike the Arizona Trail. At the same time, Marmot is taking distance schooling to extremes as she logs into her lessons every time she can get cell service. Wow!

Some of you may be asking, what kind of parent would drag their tween from Maine to Arizona and make her endure cactus spines, big hairy spiders, and snow storms? Well Charlotte (known on the trail as Dread Pirate) is the perfect person to be accompanying her daughter on a thru-hike of epic proportion. 

What’s a thru-hike?

It’s an end-to-end hike of a long, long trail with no significant departures from the trail. 

Dread Pirate has completed thru-hikes on all the major continent-spanning trails in the US: 
  • The Appalachian Trail - 2160 Miles
  • The Pacific Crest Trail - 2650 Miles
  • And the Continental Divide trail where she and her husband (Marmot’s dad) got engaged - 3100 Miles

Charlotte has had more than her fair share of adventures and epics and can handle almost any trail emergency. Charlotte is also a trained and educated naturalist, a wilderness first responder, and a licensed Maine guide. 

The real reason she’s perfect for this adventure, though, is that she believes in the power, autonomy, creativity and character of kids. She doesn’t see her role as a parent as one who hovers over a child, preventing or cleaning up mistakes… She knows they deserve every chance to fail, excel, learn, and experience life. 

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Show Notes
Key Takeaways: 
  • Young people can (and should) do a lot more than we give them credit for. 
  • Parents can help their children grow and mature by getting out of their way and encouraging authentic personality formation. 
  • Families that want their children to spend more time outside will probably have to go out with them. 
  • The best thing for an emotionally healthy child is a set of parents who are working on being emotionally healthy (i.e. put yourself in therapy before you put your kid in therapy).
Do a This Week's Science:
  • Charlotte’s challenge for Adults - go for a walk every day for 10 minutes and leave your phone behind 
  • Georgia’s challenge for Kids - Put down your device for an hour. Go do something active. 
​More About the Guests:
  • Instagram feed with photos and videos from the AZTrail:   @marmotandpiratesadventures
  • Charlotte Clews Yoga, Pilates & adventure site: http://wildopenheart.com/
Other relevant Episodes: 
  • Episode 61 How to Cook a Moose with Author Kate Christensen
  • Episode 38 How To Talk To Teens with Adam Young
  • Prescott Woman Podcast ​Episode 8: Teens Who are Making Prescott Better Together
Dive Deeper on the Topic: 
  • What is the Arizona Trail? 
  • What Happens To Your Body When You Thru Hike? 
  • Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder - Richard Louv
  • 10 Ways To Raise A Wild Child 
  • The Geography of Childhood - Gary Nabhan
  • The Princess Bride - William Goldman

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Music Credits: A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill
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How to Do the Right Thing II- the Un-Episode

3/8/2021

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In which the Guest Makes the Hosts Answer Personal Questions
So what happened is… we were cruising along, interviewing Jeff Morrill, the entrepreneur who created a very successful Subaru dealership by infusing it with his values of fairness, inclusion, compassion and sustainability. It’s such a different way of selling cars that they call it an “un-dealership.” 

During a break in the interview, Charles stepped away from the mic to refill his tea… when he came back, Jeff was quizzing Kelly about her life stage and current purpose and how she felt about it. 
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Charles thought about trying to regain control of the interview and to get back to asking our questions, but Jeff’s questions were much more interesting and inspiring than the ones we had mapped out on our whiteboard. And really, where Jeff was taking the conversation was straight to one of our favorite places; his questions are about the skills and attitudes that build healthy relationships. 

Guest Bio: 
Jeff Morrill started Planet Subaru in Boston years ago and brought with him a culture of service, inclusion, mentorship, kindness, and sustainability that extends to employees and customers alike. To show he was for-real about those values, Jeff hired sales people from diverse backgrounds who other dealerships wouldn’t hire.  He made sure to power the whole facility with solar panels. And he created an apprenticeship program to train women to succeed in higher-paying service jobs. That’s working on cars - oh yeah.

Jeff is now in a new season of life, out of the direct scrum of running the business. Now he seeks to mentor others in leadership and promote the ethical business practices that he says made his bottom line all the better. He wrote a book about his experience and recommendations called Profit Wise - How to Make More Money by Doing the Right Thing, which we highly recommend.

Part of this new season for Jeff seems to include some deep self reflection and a powerful curiosity about what makes relationships work. 

Listen as we drop into a very candid conversation about the big questions in life… what are you doing? What brings you meaning? How do we relate to others? How can we uncover the flaws in our relationships and address them. 

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Music Credits: A Hawaiian in Paris feat.-Pierre-Grill​​
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SHOW NOTES: 
THIS WEEK’S SCIENCE

An opportunity for some self-reflection. What season of life are you in? We’d like to know.
  • Spring - learning, new role, apprentice, unknown, unskilled, curious
  • Summer - creating, accomplishing, working, confident
  • Fall - Mastering, mentoring, teaching others, giving back, supporting
  • Winter - resting, reflecting, writing, letting be, breathing
​​Links to Jeff's Work
  • Jeff’s Website
  • Jeff’s Book
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​Other Relevant HTP Episodes
  • Episode 44 How to Be Authentic and Whole with Kate & Colby Martin
  • Episode 60 How to Get Coached with Ken Kilday and Tom Check
Jeff’s Podcast Recommendations
  • Making Sense Podcast with Sam Harris
  • 4 Day Work Week Entrepreneur
Dive Deeper on the Topic 
  • Nonviolent Communication - Marshall Rosenberg
  • Choice Theory - William Glasser​
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