We’re so excited to share talk with Daniel Sih about some of the big problems facing community living and some of the solutions he’s come up with.

Daniel Sih is the co-founder of Spacemakers, a productivity consulting group for busy leaders. After experiencing physical symptoms that were the result of working in the “always on” culture of internet connectivity, Daniel became passionate about helping people make space in their world for the things that really matter - like family, reflection, rest, and recharge.

We’ll talk a bit with Daniel about his book, Space Maker: How To Unplug, Unwind, And Think Clearly In The Digital Age. It contains a whole new way to think about how we spend our time AND some concrete suggestions about how to reclaim some space in our lives through both ambitious and simple changes.

In addition to carving out more personal space for peace of mind, Daniel recognized that he needed to push back at the atomization and isolation in our culture and actively create a sustaining community for himself and his family. Over a decade ago, he bought land and built two adjoining houses with another professional couple in Tasmania, Australia.

We’re really interested in learning about how these two families (and their neighbors) learned to share life and land as an intentional  mini-community. It sounds like the community got a little spontaneous, too, as neighbors joined in. Over the years, Daniel and his extended family learned about the limits of good intentions and the importance of structure to keep a community healthy through all seasons. Their solutions are ones that you might find yourself thinking about, even if your intentional community is just one family sharing a house.

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Music Credits: “Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

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Key Takeaways: 

• Families and intentional communities are hard and require our full humanity and our dedicated participation. 
• Want to be more human? Reduce your screen time and increase your alone time AND your time with community
  • Don’t take your phone into your bedroom.
  • Eat dinner at a table w/o screens
• Make a commitment to community rituals and gathering and subsume your calendar to those commitments. ​

Connect with Daniel Sih

• The Space Makers Website 
• Book page: https://spacemakers.com.au/book/
• Free chapters: https://spacemakers.com.au/book/free-chapters/

 

• Guest’s Social Media
  • Facebook www.facebook.com/shiftthewayyouwork
  • Linked In profile – https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-sih-86944a12/
  • Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/spacemakerdan/

Sustainable living resources: 

• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

•  Hosting a Community Dinner - https://thefamilydinnerproject.org/guide-to-hosting-a-community-dinner/

Dive Deeper on the Topic: 

• Read Jean Twenge’s Book IGen - Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us 

Read Cal Newport’s Book Digital Minimalism Choosing a Focused Life in a Noisy World

This episode might seem like a bit of a diversion…our guests this time aren’t necessarily living in co-housing but they are both deeply immersed in creating a rich, sustainable community in Santa Barbara, CA. 

Jill Cloutier is the Public Relations Director of an environmental education and arts nonprofit called Explore Ecology (EE for short). EE works with over 30,000 children a year with a focus on Watershed Education, School Gardens, Waste Reduction, and Creative Exploration. Their work inspires children to engage with the natural world, think critically, and experience the value of environmental stewardship.
 
Jill is a podcast producer, video-maker and writer. Her projects focus on plants and permaculture. Permaculture is a really important concept that contributes to biological, agricultural, and household sustainability and we’re really excited for Jill to help us understand that term and how we can practice it at small and medium scales to improve our lives and impacts.  
 
Rachel Palmer is the Art Coordinator for EE and is in charge of the Art from Scrap Creative Re-use Store and Gallery and the associated arts programs. 
 
Rachel is a fiber and print artist, educator, and self-proclaimed podcast fanatic. She is the Story Editor for Copper & Heat, the James Beard Award-winning podcast exploring the unspoken rules and traditions of the kitchen.
   
Kelly's all about the upcycle and Charles is all about the permaculture, so I can’t wait to see where this conversation goes and find out what we can learn today.

Welcome, Rachel and Jill! Thank you so much for being here with us today!

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Music Credits: “Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

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SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways: 

•  The Three Permaculture Ethics
  • Earth Care
  • People Care
  • Fair Share
• How to balance passion with attraction
• Podcasting is Fun!

Do a Science:

• Find the plants in your area that can be used as natural dyes!

Transcript!

• Download the full transcript

Connect with Jill and Rachel

• Explore Ecology: https://exploreecology.org/ 
• Art from Scrap  https://exploreecology.org/art-from-scrap/
• Jill’s Podcasts 
  • Sustainable World Radio: https://sustainableworldradio.com/
• Rachel Podcast
  • Copper & Heat Podcast: https://www.copperandheat.com/

 

• Social Media Links
  • Facebook  https://www.facebook.com/artfromscrap/
  • Youtube   https://www.youtube.com/user/ExploreEcology
  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/artfromscrap
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/artfromscrap

Sustainable living resources: 

• Download: Directory Of Creative Reuse Centers In The United States
• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

We know so many people who simultaneously feel blessed and privileged with a good, secure, abundant life, but they know they are missing something.  The single-family lifestyle has caused us to trade away too much community, mutual support, and joy for the illusion of autonomy, abundance, and safety.

There is an ache in our bones for a life that is more connected and meaningful, a life that sees us giving more of our gifts, and that leaves more and less of an impact on our world. If you feel that same ache, you’re in the right place.
We’re beyond excited to talk with Dr. Kat Caldwell today about some of the human issues of living in community.

How do we mobilize in the face of climate change, when we are mired in grief and/or denial?  How do we make individual changes that have a positive impact?

Dr. Caldwell has a Ph.D. in Human Development and is a researcher and teacher in the field of Conservation Psychology, which strives to understand the “reciprocal relationships between humans and the rest of nature, with the goal of encouraging conservation of the natural world.”  Kat researches how people make conservation-based choices in their households and how messaging can promote healthier and more sustainable food systems and behaviors. Kat encourages her students to become self-aware, critical thinkers and engaged citizens with an understanding of what motivates conservation behavior. She is also the Director of Thrive Ithaca, the Ithaca EcoVillage Education Center, so she is the perfect person for us to talk to about how to make this dream of ours work.

With enough money, we could design and build all sorts of awesome housing and community features, but unless we understand what makes people live well together and behave in sustainable ways, we’re not going to succeed, so we are especially grateful to talk with Kat.

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Music Credits: 
“Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording
“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone
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SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways: 

• Use mindfulness to interrupt habits of excess consumption
• Focus on your real human needs for community, connection, security, and joy
• Facing climate change is easier when in a sustainable community
• Eco-Villages and Co-housing Communities strike a balance between privacy and community​​

Connect with Kat and the EcoVillage at Ithaca

• Ithaca EcoVillage  https://ecovillageithaca.org/ 
• Thrive Ithaca https://www.thriveithaca.org/
• Social Media
  • EcoVillage Facebook 
  • EcoVillage Youtube Channel

Sustainable living resources: 

• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

• Voluntary Simplicity by Duane Elgin
• Find our more about Co-housing and Ecovillages: Foundation for Intentional Community 

Watch the full interview on YouTube: 
https://youtu.be/oRQ1z58bQXw​

​This episode we’re excited to talk with someone who is leveraging the inexorable power of capitalism to actually make positive change.

Dr. Dionne Payn is the Founder and CEO of High Impact Property Investments. Dionne specializes in raising capital for organizations that create ethical property developments in Australia and the USA. Dionne is a speaker, author and property coach who loves creating win-win outcomes for as many people as possible. Her goals include:

• Socially responsible investment
  
• Affordable homes for everyone
  
• Building resilient communities
  
• Ending homelessness. 
  

Dionne has a PhD in Natural Products Chemistry, has project managed a number of property developments in Australia and has helped over 30 investors to achieve double digit returns through property. These property projects range from small one into two subdivisions up to larger, sustainable, co-living projects.
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In this interview, Dionne talks about how she created abundance for her family while creating win/win/win solutions for investors, housing seekers and the community AND while sticking to a set of lofty values. 
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Music Credits: 
“Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording
“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

SHOW NOTES: 
Key Takeaways: 

• Establish Shared Values
• Create a really clear vision    
• Pitch it to as many people as possible
• Create a tea, of people who are aligned with that vision

See the Ethical Investment Framework below: ​

 Connect with Dr. Payn

• Dr. Payn’s Website 
• High Impact Investment Kit
• Dr. Payn’s Social Media
  • LinkedIn
  • Facebook

​Sustainable living resources: 

• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

This episode we’re excited to bring you a conversation with someone who seems able to cultivate a 10,000 foot view of the historical, social, cultural, and technical facets of climate change and sustainability.  David Johnson, has been teaching at Stanford Law School since 2008, while doing legal work for tech and biotech firms in Silicon Valley. His recent work on sustainability, though, explores the application of design thinking to the big problems we face today, whether it’s micro plastics in the oceans, species loss, or Southwestern drought.

Listen all the way to the end to hear David give is some free consulting about a big community project that Kelly and I are contemplating as out legacy work.

David's Full Bio: 
​Dave Johnson has been teaching courses in negotiation at Stanford Law School since 2008, alongside his legal work in Silicon Valley. Starting in 2014, he began teaching at the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford (a/k/a “the d.school”), recently completing the fifth instance of his first-of-its-kind course, Negotiation by Design, applying design-thinking principles to the art and craft of negotiation.

Dave’s work in Silicon Valley covered intellectual property litigation, corporate transactions and governance matters. He has testified as an expert witness on intellectual property in federal court, and appeared as a witness on law and technology before the California Assembly and Congress. He has served as general counsel for private and public tech companies in social media, life sciences, organizational design, healthcare and, most recently, for a non-profit in higher education.

For his JSM in Law, Science & Technology, David's research explored object-oriented design and fuzzy set theory as ways to inform a new approach to environmental law and policy. David is currently working on a book titled Climate Activism by Design, bringing design principles to bear on citizen activists responding to corporate and government inaction on this immediate, existential crisis facing all of humankind. 

​When not writing or teaching, Dave is an avid skier and sailor, and a diligent but decidedly average tennis player.

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Music Credits: 
“Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording
“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

SHOW NOTES: 
​Key Takeaway: 

•  Three steps to avoiding hopelessness
  • Do something small to make your life more sustainable
  • Luxuriate in the feeling that small step gives you
  • Use that energy to connect with others so you can scale up!

Connect with David Johnson

• David’s Website https://climate-activist.com/ 
• David’s Social Media Feeds
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter 

Sustainable living resources: 

• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

•  Zero Grocery Delivery

Dive Deeper on the Topic: 

• Follow John Cusack on Twitter 
• A video about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch
• An article about Henry Ford’s “Soybean Car”
• More good news about soy plastic
• Diver removes hooks from sharks’ mouths

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We’re really excited to release this episode featuring Kate Gaertner, a leading sustainability expert and consultant with 25 years of corporate and entrepreneurial experience. Kate is also a personal carbon footprint evangelist on a mission to help individuals align their priorities with their values to create positive change.
 
The level of her involvement in the forefront of women’s business, sustainable fashion and reforming manufacturing toward zero waste make her a real thought leader and we’re lucky to have her here. Kate has held digital marketing management positions at XM Satellite Radio, Ziff Davis Media, and Time Inc.; worked as a strategic consultant to Fortune 500 companies developing go-to-market business cases; founded a sustainable women’s active wear lifestyle brand, OMALA; and was an Adjunct Professor at the Fashion Institute of Technology (F.I.T.). She serves as the Board Chair of XXcelerate, a business-accelerator and fund for women led businesses; and is a technical advisor to the Loopt Foundation, a global-reach non-profit progressing pre- and post-consumer material zero waste goals within manufacturing.

​Kate is the author of the book, Planting a Seed: 3 Simple Steps to Sustainable Living. It is packed with actionable sustainability tips AND a template for prioritizing those tips and actions in a way that matches who you are and what you value.

​The website (www.kategaertner.com) is this incredibly useful and generous portal into personal sustainability. I found Kate because someone in my twitter feed forwarded Kate’s sustainability quiz which helped me see where my efforts were strong and where they could be stronger. Kategaetner.com also contains links to worksheets that you can use to make clear and closely customized action plans to reduce your carbon footprint and make your life better.
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Music Credits: 
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Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

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SHOW NOTES: 
​Key Takeaways: 

•  Align your sustainability strategy with your personal values to make your changes easier and more sustainable
• The four different values drivers
  • Penny Pinching
  • Personal Healthy and Well-being
  • Building Community
  • Preserving Natural Diversity
• The Seven Areas to Reduce Your Carbon Footprint
  • Transportation
  • Energy
  • Food
  • Home and Property
  • Material Goods
  • Water
  • Waste

​Connect with Kate

• Kate Gaertner’s Website 
• Kate’s Book Plant a Seed 
• Sustainable Living Resources
  • SustainAbility Quiz
  • Values and Impact Worksheets
• Her Social Media
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter 
  • Instagram

Sustainable living resources: 

• Imperfect Foods
• Find a Farmer’s Market near you!
• Eileen Fisher RENEW 
• Patagonia Worn Wear
• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy

(Full disclosure: If you use this link to sign up, we get $10 off our electric bill!)

Hello, H.tties. In Season 3 of the HERE.together podcast we’re obsessed with the the big question.

[fanfare]

Can we live together sustainably? And if so, HOW?

Over the next year we’re gonna curate conversations with the people who are living in ecovillages, designing new cities, inventing new (or unearthing old) household tech, and who are at the forefront of sustainability science to get answers for ourselves and for you.

That’s why we’re really excited to interview Sara Zellner early in the season. Sara has been helping organizations AND families answer the big question.

Sara is an entrepreneur on a mission to help individuals and businesses align their priorities with their values to create positive change. (You know we are suckers for values alignment!) She is the founder and owner of Saz Healthy Living, which provides sustainable living, health, and wellness coaching, and is the principal CEO of Lynz Consulting LLC, which specializes in corporate responsibility; environmental, social, and governance (ESG); and sustainability consulting. PhD-trained, Sara uses her research and coaching skills to delve into her clients’ vexing issues and assist them in reaching their goals.

In this episode, Sara lays out the three most important steps individuals and families can take to reduce their carbon footprint (and, incidentally, become more physically healthy). She also runs us through the most common blocks to personal sustainable change and some support about how to get past them.

​Join us on Clubhouse

• Clubhouse User Guide
• Link to The HERE.together Room

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Music Credits: “Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone

SHOW NOTES
Key Takeaways: 

•  Three most important choices for a more sustainable lifestyle
  • Change where you get your electricity
  • Reduce or eliminate beef and lamb consumption
  • Reduce gasoline consumption
    • Work from home
    • Use public transportation
    • Purchase a hybrid or EV car
• Things to look out for:
  • Succumbing to convenience
  • Life issues or changes that distract from sustainability priorities
  • Corporate or marketing “greenwashing” ​​

Connect with Sara

• Saz Healthy Living 
• Lynz Consulting, LLC 
• Her Blog
  • Air Travel And Your Carbon Footprint
  • What Does Clean Eating Mean?
  • MORE
• Her Social Media
  • LinkedIn
  • Twitter 

Sustainable living resources: 

• Arcadia Power - Switch to renewable energy​

Dive Deeper on the Topic: 

• 9 Ways to Avoid Hormone-Disrupting Chemicals - NRDC
• The biggest problem with carbon offsetting is that it doesn’t really work - in Greenpeace Newsletter

Welcome to Season 3 of the HERE.together podcast. This season we are upgrading the podcast so it serves you AND US better. 

Yeah, we did a sustainability study and realized the pod wasn’t thriving for us. Over the past two years, it’s been beautiful and uplifting to talk with all those amazing, smart people, and learn about personal growth, art, relationships, and even sex.

But we were quite frankly getting burned out creating weekly content. We love the topic and could talk about personal growth forever… but it just wasn’t enough to keep us going on an unrelenting weekly release schedule.

AND...
Over the course of the last few months, we realized that there was one Big Question that we talked about over and over 

We covered our walls with post-it notes about it...And spent insomniac nights strategizing about it …And (one of us) obsessed over it with google searches and Facebook group queries...

It’s a great topic for a podcast. It’s a big, relevant, important question that we bet almost everyone is thinking about, even if only semi-consciously

So here’s the big question: [Trumpet fanfare] Can we live together sustainably?  If so, how?  

How do we stand a chance against rising temps, rising seas, and burning forests? How do we adapt the way we live to the weird weather, the economic changes, and the social upheaval that’s getting closer every day? 

The best way we know how to try and answer this huge important question [fanfare] is to podcast about it. To talk to all the smartest, most engaged people we can find on this topic. 

So, in season 3, we invite you to come with us as we explore the way forward through climate chaos, pandemic, and economic upheaval on both a personal and a global level.  
  
In Season 3, We’re gonna curate conversations with the people who are living in ecovillages, designing new cities, inventing new (or unearthing old) household tech, and at the forefront of sustainability science and ancient wisdom to get answers for ourselves and for you.  

AND, because we know there is deep expertise, passion, and curiosity in our audience, we’ll be providing even more opportunities for you to share your ideas, questions, and concerns. Stay tuned to the end of this episode to hear about some of these opportunities. 

Along the way, we’ll share our story and our search for a better way to live.  We think it might be your story, too.

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SHOW NOTES:
Examples of More Sustainable Living: 

• The Ithaca Eco-village​

Episode Footnotes:

•  1.5 or 2 degrees Celsius of additional global warming: Does it make a difference? at Yale Climate Connections
• Thirsty Future for American West, as ”Megadrought” Grips Some of the Fastest-Growing U.S. Cities at Fair Warning. 
• Unlimited Sand and Money Still Won’t Save the Hamptons on Bloomberg
• Marshall Islands pleads with world leaders to stop the 60,000-person nation from drowning at the Washington Post (Link provides gift access behind paywall.)
• Record-breaking California wildfires surpass 4 million acres at AP News.

Join us on Clubhouse

• Clubhouse User Guide
• Link to The HERE.together Room

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Hello H.tties! Our pod-a-versery is coming up next week. We’re finishing our second full year of podcasting!

In recognition of that achievement AND all the support you gorgeous h.tties have given us, we’re re-releasing this early (kind of major) episode with Claire Louge, that we recorded back in February 2020 before the world changed.
This episode is our most downloaded ever… and for good reason. Claire is brilliant, inspiring, and tells important stories about her personal growth and what drives her to be such an advocate for youth and community.

Like the other special re-releases we’ve done recently … this interview with Claire is another part of the meta story of how the HERE.together podcast came to be what it is today.

You see, at the time of this original interview, Claire had just been promoted to Executive Director of a state-wide non-profit and I thought we’d be talking about kinda standard podcast interview fare about how she’d been so successful at such a young age. She’d pitch her programs, encourage people to get involved and we’d have a decent episode.

Instead, the conversation veered quickly into much more important, more fraught territory that included stories about self-image, eating disorders, fear, courage, and choosing to live large. Yes, we also talked about preventing child abuse and live action role-playing.
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This kind of radical honesty, fierce connection, and general badassery became the touchstone for us in producing this podcast. We knew we couldn’t make a regular, rah-rah business or thin-veneered community podcast… we knew we were in this for the vulnerability, the deep humanity, the learning, and, frankly, the big love that we’ve experienced over and over with the parade of incredible guests we’ve been so fortunate to share conversations with.
And that’s the knowing we’ve followed ever since. Thank you for following along.

Guest Bio:
Claire Louge is the Executive Director of Prevent Child Abuse Arizona, a statewide non-profit organization dedicated to preventing child maltreatment before it happens, and helping those who have experienced childhood trauma build resilience to its effects.

​Claire obtained her Bachelor’s degree in Human Development from Cornell University and her Masters of Education in Human Relations from Northern Arizona University. Claire is also a Certified Trauma Support Specialist through the Arizona Trauma Institute, certified by the National Alliance of Children's Trust and Prevention Funds to teach the Strengthening Families™ Protective Factors Framework, and an authorized Stewards of Children® facilitator. She is a graduate of the American Express Leadership Academy at the ASU Lodestar Center and is also an AmeriCorps VISTA alumnus. Claire also volunteers her time to create and produce live action role playing adventure events for teens.


Show Notes: 
Organizations & Events

• ​Prevent Child Abuse Arizona
• Statewide Child Abuse PREVENTION Conference - July 21 & 22
• Wayfinder Camp

Books & Articles

• Things My French Mother Taught Me - Claire Louge
• SoulCraft - David Plotkin
• Choice Theory - William Glasser
• Positive Childhood Experiences
• So You Want to Talk About Race - Ijeoma Oluo

Hello H.tties! We are re-releasing an episode with Tony Himes that we recorded way back in November 2019.

This episode is a worthwhile re-issue for several reasons. One, we believe that Tony’s message of contact and interpersonal connection is a really important one in the era of Covid separation and alienation. And, two, this early episode became a bit of a model or template for what the podcast would become. We opened ourselves up to Tony as he led us - on air as it were - through a gestalt exercise that caused us to tear up and have some deep feels. That shared vulnerability and learning became the special sauce for this whole project.
​
In this warm, intimate interview, you get to hear about the sense of hope, joy, and connection that Tony Himes brings to his work and his life. Tony has been a Marriage and Family Therapist for over 20 years and is the Executive Director of Arizona Gestalt Institute. Tony completed his Master of Science degree in Educational Psychology and is now an adjunct faculty member at Prescott College.   

During this long, relaxed chat, Tony shares deeply from his own profession and personal experience about what it means to "be in contact" - to connect with oneself or another in a powerfully open, humble, and supportive way. At the end of the episode, you are invited to join in on short exercise to get in contact with yourself.   

Music Credits: 
“Colorado-Slinkies” by trout recording
“Everyone-Everywhere” by_Jayme_Stone​

SHOW NOTES
​More About Tony

• The Arizona Gestalt Institute​

Other relevant Episodes: 

• How to Build Soulful Power with Christian de la Huerta
• How to Question Everything with Mary Hodges

Dive Deeper on the Topic:  

• Martin Buber, I and Thou at Powell's Books

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